If you want to scope your BM 59, there is a company that makes a direct over the bore scope kit for Garands that fits the BM59. So, S and W are also dead to me. This Modern Sporting Rifle is built with a carbine-length gas system with a low-profile gas black to efficiently redirect propellant gases. When I found out that they hire Vets to assemble and test them, it was icing on the cake and I got one for low $400s. AR Parts. It might not have, but then again, if Senator Harmon didnt think it wouldnt have gotten himthat last vote or two he needed, he wouldnthave offered the deal. Ben Franklin once said, If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately.. Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. Both companies are stalwart defenders of 2A rights and arent in the habit of heavily funding Bloomberg puppet, anti gun politicians, as has been discovered of both SA and RRA. Bummer, I was considering a Springfield 1911 at some point. The Springfields looked to be a good value. Even being on this site makes you a hypocrite because TTAG regularly advertised for Glock, S&W and Springfield. Are you reading-impaired? He didnt say, Hey, we screwed up. Join up with other interest groups if common goals can be found. Down side is nobody making spare mags for it yet other than Hornor Defense. Bill Ruger retired from the company in 2000 and died in 2002. They are more than welcome in southern Indiana. The Illinois Manufacturers Association will continue to fight and protect not only manufacturers, but dealers and the gun owner as well.. If truth about guns knows whats good for them, theyll be taking this story down and apologizing publicly for spreading untrue assumptions. The RRAGE pistol features a 10.5-inch barrel. Everyone here is minding our business, because its our business where our money goes. had I known earlier, I might have bought a few more colt revolvers..god I wish Id known. So, if youre looking for a cheap AR-15, Rock Compare. Watch the TonyBen videos on YouTube. Anyway, at least for now, I will bide my time and see if Springfield repents and takes positive actions to atone for their irrational IL acts. How did the unveiling of the new pistol go? Rock River Arms is an American manufacturer of firearms that was founded in 1996. Apples and suspension bridges here. +1, they are a bunch of liars praying on the ignorant. I think a hit to Springfield sales should get them leaning on the IFMA (who should be facing a hit to subscribers) enough for the IFMA to not fold in the future. I fail to see how giving the box stores a leg up on the gun shops helps Rock River or Springfield Arms in any way. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 Fred Eichler Predator 223 Remington/5.56 NATO AR15 Semi Auto Rifle $ Remove from Compare Add to Compare. They will now go to the top so I can wear them out and use the warranty. That is their only 2 clients because it only exists and was created for them. If youre looking for a good, dependable AR at a reasonable price, I dont think you * How to order a firearm: See The Guide. A Rock River two-stage match trigger or even a 3-pound single-stage trigger would be a recommended upgrade. This rifle also has an RRA TRO-XL extended free float rail handguard and an accuracy of 3/4 MOA at 100 Yards. Illinoying is pushing to get shut down. What part of their history am I missing Gov? Most importantly, support our brothers in arms in Illinois. So, if youre looking for a cheap AR-15, Rock River Arms probably isnt the best option. Might see if you can find one to test out. But Illinois only has about 2.1m gun owners of 12m population thats fewer by a significant margin than the number of hard-core urban Dems in Chicago alone. Nothing unethical about this practice. Springfields crime here is they didnt immediately counter the IFMA when the IFMA dropped opposition to a bill. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). I was a dedicated 1911 guy and really wanted to stick with something with a grip safety like the EMP contour or even the R-51. Make this a massive intractable mess. Damage done. As a collector of modern handguns, I was very interested in Springfields new XD-E and was hoping to find one as soon as they became available until all of this political posturing took place in Illinois (I live in neighboring Indiana). If discounted to $0, maybe. They did what they thought would keep the Criminal Clinton Administration from making a total all out war on guns. I just bought an EMP 3-inch. I dont expect everyone to feel that way. IFMAs Keller testified in March at the Illinois Senate Judiciary committee of his willingness to consider dropping the lobbying groupsopposition to the bill if his clients were exempted. Yes, that is the cloud which is usually much larger than the silver lining. SA created it). WebRock River Arms LAR-15 X-1 5.56mm Black Semi-Auto Rifle with RRA Beast Muzzle Brake Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: XAR1751B; Rock River Arms LAR-15 X-1 5.56mm Flat Dark Earth (FDE) Semi-Auto Rifle with RRA Beast Muzzle Br Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: XAR1751T; The bills author was Dianne Feinstein (D-CA). Pretty small and isolated country town. WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. The RBG-1S is available in .308 Win./7.62x51 and 6.5 Creedmoor, with a 20-, 22- or 24-inch barrel, and a black, green or tan stock. Ive gotten good deals and free shipping on Handguards from CTD. I sent an email and their response was the parts were out of stock. I considered buying an XDs when I was looking for a conceal carry, glad I bought something else. Or how much it was going to take to replace them? Rock River Arms has built a reputation as a quality maker of modern sporting rifles and offers an extremely diverse list of models and options. RRA and Mr Larson are the only ones who can make a reliable AR-10. Oh, hell no, he told me. This says a lot about the people running the company. (And I can guarantee he would never speak to me like that in person.). In your opinion. Im not selling it because of this cluster, but Im not buying from RRA again either. Springfield Armory today is a strong supporter of everything 2A. First, they co-opt the name of a famous military armory to start a business with absolutely no ties to the original Springfield. What should be boycotted is this garbage blog. Its called doing business. Tell us more about your experience in running a business. Nice deal on it until 4 July as well. The company SHOULD be boycotted even if they shuffle management. Today, we have nearly one dozen gun control groups working in Illinois. Huh? WebSo What Happened At Rock River Arms & Springfield Armory??? Damn This is turning into that mob with the torches looking for Frankenstein. Springfield can drop dead, Ill support gun manufacturers who support me. Instead, we were undercut by aself-serving supposed ally. I thought it was great that they were living in the same liberal hell hole that I was living in. We there the courts kill the law or the governor vetoes it, nothing changes the sellout by Springfield. it Includes larger .1555 MSRP: $111.99 $75.81. Hes told several industry types that he had no contact with IFMA lobbyist Jay Keller and knew nothing of this carve-out. The Reese clan has done dirty deals before, got busted too, http://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/03/16/Salvador-based-Army-colonel-indicted-on-bribery-charges/5406606027600/, RRA sells to NY LE supporting the SAFE act, which is trying to put a vet away for 21 years for having 17rd mags (no gun, just mags), http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/04/veteran_faces_21_years_in_prison_for_possession_of_pistol_magazines.html. I say boycott both RRA and Sprinfield until they get sold off to someone who cares about gun owners. I want to see how they fix the mess they created with the people who liked their product. The .308-caliber LAR-8 is plenty of gun for big-game hunting. Wow, the article on Reese is incredible. Whats the feedback at the NRA show running like? Rock River Arms, Incorporated is a manufacturing company in Colona, Illinois that manufacturers parts and accessories for AR-15 / M16 type rifles, as well as other firearms. Rock River Arms is owned and operated by brothers Mark and Chuck Larson. Between 1981 and 1991 the Larsons worked at Springfield Armory, Inc., where Mark was the head armorer. Go and ask them and Youtube/Periscope their responses. I dont think the current owner is going to make that same mistake although I wish they would just stop putting in that stupid lock already. You write as though weve been asleep. Peoplr lose jobs, get divorced, buy better guns and so on. I can promise that none, and I mean none of my not unsubstantial refund, is going to wind up in Springfields receivables account. This new model is the latest in the growing line of rifles and pistols based on the RRAGE platform. The company makes a wide variety of weapons, Beretta kicked Maryland to the curb for their ridiculous gun laws. So how is screwing your loyal customer base and flipping them the bird to their faces sound business policy? Just to be clear, they are using the name of the original company of Springfield, but they are not located in the city of Springfield. Never bought anything Springfield Armory, never will! I got a 12 2a armament Mlok handguard from them for $148.97 and free shipping in September. job creation they call it (bribery is such a dirty word). I cant imagine the CEOs of those two companies werent in the loop on these negotiations. Youve just restated Bill Rugers justification for selling out gun-rights so he could keep his company viable. Cant this fool see how much this is going to hes going to hurt his own pocketbook for this tiny edge? Maybe thats the case in many instances, but its not like the IFMA has thousands of members. Springfield isnt doing anything that the vast majority of companies do, protecting their bottom line. WebRock River Arms AR15 Uppers for Sale at Joe Bob Outfitters! There is NOTHING I need from a company that is obviously manipulating the system for themselves. Im appalled that Rock River thinks that we are that gullible.. That kind of thing actually happens all the time in lobbying. Rock solid performer. That being said, even if we do, Springfield is done as a company. Sadly I have two. Rock River Arms (RRA) has introduced a new AR-style rifle to its lineup, designed specifically with the modern hunter in mind, with the new All Terrain Hunter (ATH). Thankfully, we still have two more chances to stop this travesty of a bill. Both are were on their way to selling over a quarter million of Springfield product this year. It only sells a 100% American Made product using American Labor. The LAR-15 X-Series X-1 Rifle in .223/5.56mm from Rock River Arms is available at a manufacturer suggested retail price of $1,450.00 and $1,500.00, depending on the stock and color option (Black and Tan). theyre NOT trapped in Illinois,they can relocate,same as other gun companies have done. RRA will wind up being an LE only shop. Here I was just falling in love with my SA 1911 Loaded. If CTD notices panic buying, shuts down their site and reprices everything, thats their right. Dont know what will replace the EMP4 but I bet the TRP itch gets scratched by a Dan Wesson. Screw them. For a while there, post SAFE-ACT passage, it looked like 10-round (I know, right) mags were going to be outlawed. I had the EMP4 Contour and a TRP on my 2017 list. Henry and Ruger for the win. My inventory of six XD pistols two 1911 .45s and two M 1As will be up for sale tommorow. The vast majority of companies can do what they want to, but have have to insist that firearms companies fight for the 2nd EVEN WHEN ITS NOT IN THEIR COMPLETE SELF INTEREST TO DO SO. CEODennis Reese hasntresponded to a request for comment or a further statement beyond the one he released Thursday night. If youre looking begin your 3-Gun or short-stage PRS competition endeavors, the Rock River Arms RRAGE 2G may be your ticket. Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the Pieces, Quote of the Day: The Johnny Appleseed of Ghost Guns, Defendant Agrees Appeals Court Should Uphold Injunction Blocking New Yorks Law Banning Carrying Guns in Sensitive Places, State, Federal Lawmakers Trying to Put the Brakes On Credit Card Companies Tracking Firearm Purchases, Chicagos Failed Mayor Lori Lightfoot Loses in Reelection EffortBadly, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Repeating_Arms#History, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Repeating_Arms_Company#Early_history, http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14-Rifles.aspx. Apparently, John Smith isnt an advocate of the constitution or specifically the second amendment. Thank God we have a Rural King now here local. Just keep in mind, if you have a dozen guns in your safe, I GUARANTEE you that at least one comes from a company whos compromised at some point. That is only if Springfield Arms survives this. Defending Your Legacy is obviously just a marketing slogan for Springfield. Wasnt there big stink couple years ago about so called kitchen table FFLs not realy conducting business for living and just getting wholesale pricing on guns for themselves and their family members? This will damage Springfield Armorys brand nation-wide, in a business where reputation is everything. Not now. Well also work on the NRA to start taking a firmer stance against rogue anti-2A manufacturers, no matter how much advertising space they buy. Thats bad, dont get me wrong. Pennsylvania checking in. In the end, the timing proved fortuitous to all involved.. Especially ones outside Chiraq. We do not need traitors in our midst. About three years ago, RRAs Elite Operator hit the market sporting features designed specifically for professionals. But I struggle with the NEVER AGAIN WILL I EVER SUPPORT THIS COMPANY. Ive bought 4 guns in the last year and a half since they opened their store. Sooner or later they are going to destroy you. Their entire C Suite should resign and they need to prove themselves. $14.95 Per Firearm One $9.99 Charge For Any Amount of Accessories In short, this means rifle-makers need to adapt, and one company taking that step is Rock River Arms (RRA) with its LAR-15 Operator III in 5.56mm NATO. Thanks for Nothing SA. I dont think youre using that word right. An American voting for a Democrat One of the few cases of sincere contrition. In the world of .308 Win. Two? But when you have a muti million dollar company thats set up in a state thats you cant just pick up and move then you do what you have to do to survive. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. This story is libel. Rock Solid: Rock River Arms NSP CAR Rifle. The vocal retards who screamed about this conveniently ignored that last part. WebThis is the perfet mag for your LAR-15, and will work great in any AR-15 platform rifle. Same here. When I explained that sales were still legal before the SAFE Act deadline went into force, they still refused. Maybe there is a Mrs. Reese or someone or something burning cash on the side (gambling, drugs, who knows) that is consuming profit faster than SA can generate it. Folks like me are willing to kill for them. Frankly, Im wondering how Im going to sell my existing inventory.. Some times they have deals. And gun control wins, like this keep the gravy train flowing so they can continue to draw a paycheck and keep on going. This is why I said should not will. An EMP 4 WAS the next scheduled buy.. not anymore, never again. I own or have owned a number of AR's, including a couple of LaRue's, a KAC, a PWS and a POF. And Im not giving them up, to anybody, under any circumstances. Weve been busting our asses to support our friends and punish our enemies. Taurus? Indiana has a good climate for manufacturers of firearms, and I wouldnt mind seeing a few more ffls open up shop near me in Northwest Indiana, either. I think probably not. So how is screwing your customer base over a sound business strategy? The rifle comes fully loaded with a Rock River two-stage Dont forget about the Ruger, Smith and Wesson sellout.. He might want to eject before the SS Springfield capsizes. Glock and S&W sell their guns to states like NY, NJ, HI that trample our 2A rights every day but I dont see you bashing them and Ill bet most of you own a Glock or a S&W. Bill is long gone and the last 15yrs of Ruger leadership have taken a much different stance. I think sometimes its just because they are new to the hobby of guns. AR-15 Parts. S&W was sold for 12% of its former value. Hence why, even with Democrats holding a super-majority in both our House and Senate, and a rabidly anti-gun Governor, we held the line even post-Newtown. Had a Springfield 1911 that I sold late last year to fund another purchase and was thinking of replacing it with a TRP at some point guess this gives me all the excuses I needed to spend a few hundred more for a Dan Wesson or an STI. If one of them didnt actually know about this then thats really not fair. because Im sure you dont live in illinios. Rock River's LAR-458 is the top pick for hunters because of its value, excellent trigger and superb accuracy. Great grip and trigger. Rock Rivers LAR-15 NSP CAR is a lightweight, reliable, well-made and accurate AR carbine that is ready for duty right out of Why does anyone ever even try to work with them? My target is when my oldest daughter graduates from high school. Now they piss on us and tell us its raining? see: gasoline supply during any natural disaster where the govt threatens to prosecute profiteers. Was also saving up for an m1a. Were pulling out of IFMA and regret that this happened. Which would help with elimination if in the future. Its real easy for you people to bash a company when you dont own shit. I see how you fired a shot across IFMAs bow last week. Huh? Screw that. I used to have a TRP. That doesnt change whats actually been proven that was three years ago. We need more FFLs down here so there will be some competition. THEY MUST BE BOYCOTTED INTO BANKRUPTCY. The Ceo needs to retire, and everyone on the upper levels canned to. Well after reading this and let me add no love for blue Illinois my days with SA are over. Ruger sold us out on the 94 AWB and it is well documented. They see deep-blue Illinois as a great place toenact more of their gun control schemes. Nothing Springfield will ever be in my collection now. Im not ordering anything Springfield. Id say they are a step above most other production 1911s. thats what Illinois is hoping for stand our ground, Springfield got me right in my Grip Zone with this move, bu-bye SA. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. He was busted before for bribing a Colonel on a Salvadorean arms deal. Sadly, some of the collar county Repubs arent so much. They profess innocence at this point, lets see if their actions match their words. Hislobbyist will continue to fight and protect dealers and gun owners? I agree. Probably hard now to sell it for half what you paid if at all. You and your mindset are one of the problems with this country. This was a bit disingenuous because, basically, both companies were If you are willing to do 9mm, check out an Honor Guard. Several other really good CCs out there too if you want one of the big mfgs. Or companies selling imported crap that pretend to be American. Is Rob Leatham going to stick with Springfield after this debacle? They have no ethics. The news of Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms selling Illinois gun dealers and gun owners down the river continues to spread among The People of The Gun. Oh yes, Illinois folks: start an ACTIVE campaign outing all the IL Representatives that voted for the bill. Audits of the players, including the lobbyist and relevant politicians, and FOIAs or something for pending investigations against all the same could prove enlightening. I would say that Ruger has done more to support the 2A than all other companies combined. (Im a 30 yr Vet). Had it in the cart at buds ready to buy tomorrow and now it definitely is not going to happen. RRA models, like the RRAGE, LAR15, BTB, ATH, LAR68 & Light Mountain, are available in many different color options and calibers. Does anyone really buy RRAs BS, We didnt know? To be fair- since Bill Rugers death, the company has done a complete 180. The more concentrated the producers and sellers of firearms becomes the easier it will be to controlled and monitored. Or cameras? They are a leader in the firearms field with a vast array of products that work correctly. Do you know how much the dealer bought them for? Who the hell made this business decision and have they been fired yet? Allexcept for gun owners and the non-big box store gun dealers who have to live and work in the Land of Lincoln. All have been accurate and reliable. Anyone who tries will come out worse for the experience. I dont buy imported guns so SA & RRA are not going to loose any sales because of me. Good luck with that RRA. But it will be history at my house. I posted a similar comment on another article about the same subject matter, but again, and for emphasis: SPRINGFIELD IS DEAD TO ME. I only purchase products from them with free shipping because they rape you on shipping. 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